The Manosphere Isn’t The Problem. Feminism Is.
The poll that "surprised" the progressive feminists
I recently watched a discussion on The New Statesman channel on YouTube called “GenZ man haters. Why do young women hate men?
Here is the link to the video. I recommend giving it a watch:-
Why do young women hate men? | UK Politics | The New Statesman
The video description reads:
“For years, we have wrung our hands about the Manosphere: the misogynist influencers like Andrew Tate exploiting a generation of disillusioned and impressionable lost boys. But what about radicalised young women?”
Well how about that?
In the video, the three women discuss the findings of a poll they carried out on Gen Z and their attitudes towards the opposite sex. The results of the poll certainly aren’t a surprise to me and won’t be to anyone who has been actually paying attention. But the women seem to be taken aback and surprised by the findings.
It turns out, drum roll…… young men don’t hate young women anywhere near as much as young women hate men. What a shock!
For me, the results are depressingly predictable. What was fascinating to me was listening to their response to it. Lot’s of “what could be going on here?” and “I don’t really understand why”…..
The lady conducting the interview keeps saying over and over “that’s interesting”. Interesting? It’s “interesting” that huge swathes of young women seem to inexplicably hate men? What could possibly be the reason for this?
They do actually admit that it might have something to do with “progressive” online culture and young women being radicalised online. So they are making some vague attempts to get to the bottom of things. But how about the elephant in the room ladies? As in, ALL the other aspects of normal, mainstream, every-day culture where young women are being radicalised?
The fact that it’s been baked into everything for the last decade or two doesn’t get a mention. Schools, universities, arts, politics, mainstream media, movies, BBC/Netflix dramas, documentaries, kids books, music… There is literally no escape from feminism and the constant tiresome dripping tap of casual (and not so casual) “misandry”. Yes. Misandry. Not “misogyny”. Not “toxic masculinity”. Not “the patriarchy”. But, MISANDRY. It has become so completely normalised and acceptable, most women don’t even notice it anymore, let alone talk about it.
They then have a broader conversation about the progressive politics of young women, a shift towards “communism”, how they can’t be with a man who has different opinions to them, don’t want babies, plummeting birthrates and even Israel/Gaza and Donald Trump.
What’s more, this attitude amongst young women seems to be most prevalent amongst middle class white women. Again. Colour me shocked!
If people think I might be exaggerating here. I have a daughter. I see what she is doing at her mixed comprehensive school. Feminism is baked into pretty much everything and I have spent the best part of the last decade “deprogramming her”. Or at least showing her some different sides to this and offering her a chance to think it through and critically approach some of the things she is being relentlessly bombarded with on a daily basis at school. As a result she talks to me regularly about these issues.
Unlike her school, I am trying to get her to look at the evidence and the different sides of things, and I am asking her to make up her own mind and dig into what she really thinks. I am not telling her what to think. I am asking her to think for herself. And she is remarkably mature and reasonable about it. At the age of fourteen she is already way more balanced, nuanced and sane than so many so-called adult women I have crossed paths with. So it IS possible. Take note schools!
She tells me what’s going on in her lessons and I see her homework assignments.
English? Let’s focus on women and women’s struggles and how bad it is for women and write an essay about it. History? Women. Art? Women. Science? Women. Even in maths I went to an open evening and her female maths teacher kept going on about the fact that my daughter is a “girl” and that it’s great that she’s good at maths, because we MUST encourage more girls in maths. Do we? Why?
There are posters in the school corridors celebrating female writers, scientists, artists. School assemblies? Let’s talk about women.
Women Women Women…. It’s everywhere.
If they do talk about boys and men, it’s to treat them like broken, dysfunctional girls, bombard them with “education” about “toxic masculinity”, “the patriarchy” and give them the impression that the only way they can be “good boys” is to act like “girls”.
When they’re not banging on about women and how boys need to be “less toxic”, they are talking about the rainbow alphabet cult, “people of colour”, slavery, colonialism, and how terrible Britain is.
Teachers do regularly opine about Trump, Farage and the dastardly rise of the nebulous, “far-right” in her lessons too, which as we know, is really anyone who isn’t a “progressive”.
Considering most of my daughter’s teachers are millennial women, I would say it’s highly probable that most (if not all) of those teachers identify as progressive feminists. So what are the chances they feel it’s their duty to impart the “wisdom” of their own personal politics onto young impressionable minds? It’s high. And what’s more, they do. All the time.
Yet the ladies in this YouTube conversation, when talking about economics have to admit that….
Quote:-
“If you look at the youth unemployment rate, if you look at student loans, it’s very hard to make your way as a young person at the moment in the country. But I think what’s interesting to me is that young women feel SO much more pessimistic about it than young men, even though, actually, they’re all in a bad situation, but women are in a better position than men overall. So you know, female youth employment stats are much better than male ones, female earnings for these young generations have surpassed male earnings. So yes. It’s absolutely right that they are feeling frustrated, but yet, I still can’t quite explain, how much more pessimistic they feel and that is even more pronounced amongst middle class more affluent young women in this country”
“Still can’t quite explain?” What a stark admission of the utter delusion and incompetence of today’s mainstream commentariat who are supposed to have a handle on what’s actually going on in the real world. Good grief!
And let me get this straight. Young women are doing better than young men, but still. The patriarchy. Right! Got it.
In addition, the ladies in the video say that young women seem to hate Britain and see no redeeming qualities to this country. Again. What a head scratcher!
Recently on Substack some of the usual suspects had a meltdown because Satan himself had joined the platform. Yes. Andrew Tate. Do I like him? No. But I can mute or block the guy. What concerns me WAY more than him, are the hoards of tantruming tyrants screaming about getting him slung off the platform. Luckily, many sane people on Substack who clearly don’t like Tate but do actually care about free speech, pushed back against these “safe space” Stasi’s and overwhelmingly said “No!” But how long before they get their own way? They are, as we know, loud and very, very persistent.
There is seemingly no end to their cult-like activism fetish. We have seen it all before. I actually got kicked off Twitter years ago for saying that “a man isn’t a woman”. But when they started the purge, it was figures like Andrew Tate who were first on the chopping block. And, of course, they didn’t stop there. They never do. They carried on purging and we know they won’t be happy until everyone who doesn’t share their politics are kicked out of polite society.
In a recent interview, Green Party Leader Zack Polanski talked about how he wants to build a society that doesn’t include anyone from the Right.
“There are people who identify as right wing or even far right… Do we think we can change their minds or is it a case of building a society that doesn’t include them?”
This is the leader of a mainstream political party speaking! And as the ladies in the video discuss, he is very popular amongst young radicalised women. Of course he is.
It turns out that for all the hysterics, endless opinion pieces and documentaries about the evil “Manosphere”, only a very small minority of young men seem to have been radicalised by it. But considering this is just one small corner of the internet, compared to feminism which is literally everywhere else, it’s hardly surprising that the findings of the poll show a completely skewed picture.
And it is worth pointing out the other elephant in the room. Radical feminism IS the reason we have the “Manosphere”. So there’s that minor point!
Turns out, actions have reactions.
Like so many other current progressive outrages and hobby horses, it’s been blown out of all proportion and we are all being screwed by their constant gaslighting. The fact that they won’t allow any dissent, debate or any alternative voices, only focus all their energies on their own side of the story, and ignore any counter arguments, the public are getting a warped and twisted perception of reality. Most mainstream institutions and legacy media outlets have been entirely captured by progressivism. And they wonder why so many people have been driven to such contempt for them and their finger wagging bullshit.
To many of us this has been plain to see for well over a decade now and many reasonable people have been trying to raise the alarm on all this. But the response has been to either scream at them, call them fascists, or cancel them. And so now, when the actual results of a poll like this come in, they are surprised. Of course. They have been in a carefully and very deliberately curated bubble of their own making, and the chickens are coming home to roost. The lies and distortion about the true nature of reality actually have real world consequences. No shit Sherlock.
I have had my fair share of online debates and disagreements with feminists over the years. I have been told I am either a “handmaiden”, a woman who has been “brainwashed by the patriarchy” or I am a “pick-me” woman doing all this to get attention from men. Well, thanks “sisters”! None of this is patronising at all. I guess, as a stupid woman, I have no agency.
The reason I go on about this is because I see what it is doing to young women. It’s making them miserable, angry and nihilistic. I have seen many alarming posts and endless threads made by young women about how much they despise men and how terrified they are around men. This has been ramped up for years now and it’s really worrying to me. Especially as a Mum. I am lucky to have a daughter who has a mind of her own. But this is her cohort. She is growing up with all this around her and it breaks my heart. I want her to have healthy normal romantic relationships when she gets older. I don’t want her to hate men and I don’t want her to be miserable and alone. What a waste of young peoples lives to be sucked into all this insanely manipulative poison.
When is Louis Theroux or some other progressive “acceptable face of mainstream telly” equivalent, going to make a documentary about the radicalisation of young women? When are they going to do an honest exposé of what’s actually going on in schools and universities?
But don’t take my word for it. Let’s hear it from a couple of men who have been speaking about Tate coming to Substack and the “Manosphere”.
After all, misandry has been their “lived experience”. Right progressives?
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I can barely listen to Radio 4 anymore, and gave up on NPR a decade ago. Women and girls, women and girls, women and girls.... I was recently suprised, for about 12 seconds (literally), when the problems of men and boys was mentioned - until an almost immediate pivot to how this caused problems for women and girls. Reminded me of Hilary Clinton's classic - "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”.
I liked your arguments, this stuff is definitely better heard coming from a woman. I work in acute psychiatry, and with my own eyes I can see there is a men and boys crisis going on that no ones talking about, it sadly doesnt fit the narrative. What people dont see is that if we're not nurturing and cheerleading our men and boys enough there is a vacuum, and that is where twats like Tate come in, the disenfranchised always go elsewhere to get what they need, its a fact. Society works better with strong, kind men. Telling men and boys theyre toxic creates disenfranchised, weak men, and its sad that its happening. Thank you for sharing this.